What 2025 on the Building Scale Podcast Was Really About
If there was one big takeaway from the Building Scale Podcast in 2025, it’s this: scaling a business isn’t just about getting bigger – it’s about getting better. Throughout the year, we sat down with leaders from across the broader built world to talk honestly about what growth actually looks like when you’re in the thick of it.
Again and again, conversations came back to people. Yes, revenue matters. Yes, systems matter. But growth starts with leadership. How you think, how you show up for your team, and how you make decisions when things get uncomfortable. Our guests shared real stories about growing pains, leadership lessons, culture shifts, and the mindset required to build a company that can handle what comes next.

We interview successful Architecture, Engineering, and Construction (AEC) business leaders to learn how they use people, processes, and technology to scale their businesses.
Gary McCoy shares how Blink Energy Services grew from a side hustle into a full-time business built around energy compliance and building code work. He talks about spotting a hard-to-find market need, hiring early, and shaping culture with a four-day workweek and personality tools like Enneagram and Working Genius. The conversation covers training, reducing rework on site, expanding into commissioning and retrocommissioning, and the lessons learned from moving too fast in Austin. Gary also discusses the value of a fractional CFO, building science, HVAC-driven testing, and using data to guide upgrades.
Connect with Gary McCoy, Partner, Blink Energy Services –
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/blinktexas/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/blink-energy-services/
Newsletter: https://www.linkedin.com/newsletters/blink-energy-insights-7468370575976202240/
https://www.linkedin.com/in/blinktexas/
Website: https://blinktexas.com/gary
Phone: 214-325-7632
Connect with Justin & Will –
Will's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/willforet/
Justin's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/justneagle/
Learn More & Connect With Spot Migration –
Website: https://www.spotmigration.com
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/spot-migration
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/spotmigration
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/Spotmigration
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(0:00) Introduction and sponsor call to action
(1:47) Guest introduction: Gary McCoy and Blink Energy Services
(3:16) The origin story of Blink Energy Services
(4:18) Starting as a side hustle to pay for a tractor
(5:02) What energy compliance and building code work involves
(6:36) Spotting a market need in a required, hard-to-find service
(7:44) Going full time and building a real company
(8:35) Growth, first hires, and building a knowledgeable team
(10:59) Four-day workweek and creating a culture around employee fit
(13:05) Using Enneagram and Working Genius for team dynamics
(14:55) Understanding burnout and improving communication with personality tools
(18:25) Lessons from early hiring and integrating personality assessments
(21:13) Training timelines and becoming effective in the role
(23:31) What inspectors do daily and reducing rework on-site
(27:03) Winning work through referrals and client relationships
(28:04) Expanding from multifamily to commercial, industrial, and commissioning
(30:36) Diversifying services for continued growth
(31:58) Future growth: retrocommissioning and utility rebate work
(33:23) Scaling headcount, statewide expansion, and franchise vision
(36:47) Lessons from expanding too quickly into Austin
(38:38) The impact of a fractional CFO on growth decisions
(41:59) Continuous improvement and learning from business mistakes
(42:07) Equipment and technology for field and design teams
(44:17) Mechanical systems, especially HVAC, drive most testing work
(46:22) Applying building science to remodeling and existing buildings
(47:21) Diagnosing and resolving humidity issues
(49:36) Triaging fixes by cost and impact
(50:10) Common construction mistakes and installation issues
(51:42) Using utility savings and modeling to prioritize upgrades
(52:48) Advice: trust your gut but back it up with data
(54:10) A story about choosing HD DVD vs. Blu-ray
(55:10) How to contact Gary McCoy and Blink Texas
(56:07) Sponsor: Building Scale

How Technology Showed Up
Technology was another constant thread, but never in a hype-driven way. We talked about AI, automation, data, and modern tools as what they really are: enablers. When technology supports the right strategy and the right culture, it can unlock clarity, efficiency, and momentum. When it doesn’t, it just adds noise. The goal was always practical insight, not buzzwords.
We also stayed grounded in the realities of design and construction. The challenges of running an AEC firm always came back to managing risk, building strong teams, navigating remote work, protecting well-being. These showed up naturally in nearly all conversations. Because scaling in the built environment is different. It’s complex, personal, and deeply tied to the people doing the work.
At the end of the day, the 2025 episodes all pointed to the same idea: real scale happens where people, process, and technology come together. Our hope is that these conversations didn’t just inspire listeners to grow, but helped them build businesses that are more resilient, more human, and better equipped for the future.
Below is a recap of recurring themes and topics from the show, with the % of inclusion across 2025:
| Scale / Scaling | ~84% | Core theme: growing firms & business systems |
| Growth / Growing | ~72% | Strategy, resilience, business expansion |
| Business | ~68% | General subject across interviews |
| Leadership / Leaders | ~60% | Leadership insights from guests |
| Innovation / Technology | ~56% | Tech impact on design & construction |
| AEC / Construction / Built World | ~52% | Industry focus area |
| Design / Architecture | ~48% | Creative + design practice insights |
| Team / People | ~40% | Hiring, culture, collaboration |
| Systems / Processes / Management | ~40% | Operational topics |












